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Suicide
Tweet Topic Started: Feb 8 2014, 06:05 PM (2,251 Views)
~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Mar 18 2014, 06:19 AM Post #31
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	lunar2 Mar 18 2014, 05:04 AM ObsessiveFanGirl Mar 18 2014, 04:29 AM I'm all for abortion because it's not my right to impede on another person's decision. I can sympathize with almost everyone, even murderers. I don't even think that murder is inherently always wrong. So I really don't care whether people consider abortion to be "murder" or not. All that aside, it doesn't coincide with my definition of murder anyway. Maybe my perception of morality is a bit skewed in some peoples' opinions, but that's just how I feel. wait a minute. you actually believe there is a situation where deliberately killing someone with malice is not wrong? remember that to murder someone, you have to a. mean to kill them, and b. want to kill them. it's not self defense, it's not accidental. the closest thing you can get to a justifiable murder is revenge killing, and even that is definitely wrong. Yep, I believe it. What makes all situations inherently wrong?



Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Mar 18 2014, 10:57 AM Post #32
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	I think suicide is an awful way out and I have a hard time sympathize them. Killing yourself will cause pain to those who actually cared about you (family). Ive gone through some stuff but I always try to remain positive. I don't think they're weak or cowardly but its a dumb thing to do and a little selfish
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+ Pointer	Mar 18 2014, 11:04 AM Post #33
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro Mar 18 2014, 10:57 AM I think suicide is an awful way out and I have a hard time sympathize them. Killing yourself will cause pain to those who actually cared about you (family). Ive gone through some stuff but I always try to remain positive. I don't think they're weak or cowardly but its a dumb thing to do and a little selfish totally right I had a friend . We did a lot of fun stuff together , she was always happy and very talented in sport/volleyball/ Unfortunately she had a difficult period with lot of hardships, so a really stressful months...which led to a suicide She was beautiful, but very emotional .... All in all I think suicide is nothing but s*, As you said above ....Selfish s*



Master Gohan	Mar 18 2014, 12:42 PM Post #34
Posts: 2,178 Group: New York Yankee Member #9,780 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime KIll la Kill, No Game No Life, Code Geass, Gosick, Log Horizon, Steins;Gate	I wouldn't want my future child to be aborted either, but I don't think it should be made illegal for any other woman to make that decision as long as both father and mother are on board with it.



Blue	Mar 18 2014, 04:20 PM Post #35
Posts: 11 Group: New Member Member #10,926 Joined: February 23, 2014	Although I want to tell anyone, that their life and what they do with it is theirs, the issue with suicide is that we don't actually know sometimes if that person will actually recover from that state of mind later, look back and then say they were glad they didn't end it all. It's a totally difficult issue.



Krystal	Mar 19 2014, 06:26 AM Post #36
Cooking Mama Posts: 1,728 Group: Member Member #7,091 Joined: December 19, 2011 Gender Female Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Gantz, Madoka, Gankutsuou, Full Metal Alchemist Favourite Manga Elfen Lied	I think that as a whole, if humanity thinks suicide is so bad we should probably stop treating our fellow man like garbage. I don't know what seems like a more cowardly 'out': Suicide or treating someone badly and then calling them a coward and selfish in the wake of their death instead of regret how we treated them.



Tensa Zangetsu	Mar 21 2014, 10:25 AM Post #37
Catch me if you can! Posts: 186 Group: Member Member #10,317 Joined: October 7, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Bleach, DBZ, YuYu Hakusho, Hunter x Hunter, RAVE, Naruto, Death Note, Sengoku Basara, etc What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Bleach, DBZ, YYH, Naruto, RAVE, Samurai Deeper Kyo	Suicide should be allowed only if one gives up his life with the intention to save another (or doing something good for humanity), not for one's selfish reasons.



* Crashbreaka	Mar 21 2014, 11:43 AM Post #38
Captain Oblivious Posts: 6,888 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,771 Joined: June 14, 2012 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime Onepunch-Man, Gurren Lagann What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Seven Deadly Sins, Food Wars, Onepunch-Man	I'm honestly not seeing the selfishness involved here. Taking another life, that would be selfish. But your own? It's yours to do as you wish IMO. Like if I was at home and made a sandwich for lunch. Eating it wouldn't be selfish since I made it for me, it's mine. Just because this subject's much more morbid doesn't change that. Of course, I can think of a few exceptions, like if you have kids or someone else depending on you. But those exceptions aside, I think the people expecting someone to live when they don't want to is a little selfish. Like Krystal said, we should fix the problems that cause suicide before pointing the finger at people who don't want to deal with it anymore. And as sad as this sounds, who's to say death can't be a blessing?



Tensa Zangetsu	Mar 21 2014, 02:13 PM Post #39
Catch me if you can! Posts: 186 Group: Member Member #10,317 Joined: October 7, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Bleach, DBZ, YuYu Hakusho, Hunter x Hunter, RAVE, Naruto, Death Note, Sengoku Basara, etc What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Bleach, DBZ, YYH, Naruto, RAVE, Samurai Deeper Kyo	Crashbreaka Mar 21 2014, 11:43 AM I'm honestly not seeing the selfishness involved here. Taking another life, that would be selfish. But your own? It's yours to do as you wish IMO. Like if I was at home and made a sandwich for lunch. Eating it wouldn't be selfish since I made it for me, it's mine. Just because this subject's much more morbid doesn't change that. Of course, I can think of a few exceptions, like if you have kids or someone else depending on you. But those exceptions aside, I think the people expecting someone to live when they don't want to is a little selfish. Like Krystal said, we should fix the problems that cause suicide before pointing the finger at people who don't want to deal with it anymore. And as sad as this sounds, who's to say death can't be a blessing? Its selfish because the loss of your life could affect others' lives around you a lot. Even if you don't have kids, for example...if you commit suicide, your parents may suffer a heart attack and suffer from depression. If not your parents, someone else who loves you. Moreover, people committing suicide set a bad example for others, and also influence them to do it when they are depressed. So as I said, its justifiable only under certain exceptions. Like when you give up your life for the greater good of the society and humanity.



+ Yusuke	Mar 21 2014, 06:41 PM Post #40
Posts: 7,023 Group: Elite Member Member #9,876 Joined: August 11, 2013 Gender Male Country Canada	Tensa Zangetsu Mar 21 2014, 02:13 PM Crashbreaka Mar 21 2014, 11:43 AM I'm honestly not seeing the selfishness involved here. Taking another life, that would be selfish. But your own? It's yours to do as you wish IMO. Like if I was at home and made a sandwich for lunch. Eating it wouldn't be selfish since I made it for me, it's mine. Just because this subject's much more morbid doesn't change that. Of course, I can think of a few exceptions, like if you have kids or someone else depending on you. But those exceptions aside, I think the people expecting someone to live when they don't want to is a little selfish. Like Krystal said, we should fix the problems that cause suicide before pointing the finger at people who don't want to deal with it anymore. And as sad as this sounds, who's to say death can't be a blessing? Its selfish because the loss of your life could affect others' lives around you a lot. Even if you don't have kids, for example...if you commit suicide, your parents may suffer a heart attack and suffer from depression. If not your parents, someone else who loves you. Moreover, people committing suicide set a bad example for others, and also influence them to do it when they are depressed. So as I said, its justifiable only under certain exceptions. Like when you give up your life for the greater good of the society and humanity. What a narrow minded view! What if the cause for one's suicide was caused domestically by one's parents? Wouldn't that be hypocritical for them to be depressed afterwards when they caused it in the first place? Of course, that's just one particular example of what your saying not applying. And what's with the "setting a bad example for others" baloney? If anything, another depressed person seeing another depressed person commit suicide should motivate them not to commit the act in the first place. Suicide isn't something that's cowardly. Sometimes, it's the last resort for someone who's gone threw hell and back and just can't cope with the world around them. I know what it's like because i've been in that dark alley before and it's not pretty. Commiting suicide for the greater good? Now your just starting to creep me out here.. Edited by Yusuke, Mar 21 2014, 07:46 PM.
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lunar2	Mar 21 2014, 07:47 PM Post #41
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	so according to your definition of when suicide is acceptable, someone with terminal cancer, who is going to die within a month anyway, and is either going to be in agony for that month or drugged up so much they basically sleep through it (and will still be in pain through the drugs), should tough it out and wait, knowing they are going to die anyway, just to avoid upsetting their family, who are going to lose them in a month, anyway? bull. you're going to die anyway. they are going to lose you anyway. they are being selfish if they expect you to endure that pain for a month for their sakes. and you know what, no one has a responsibility to look out for the interests of any adult except themselves. if i commit suicide because of my brain injury, and you get depressed about it, that's your problem, not mine. you are responsible for your own thoughts and actions, no one else. your emotional reactions, and your selfish shifting of blame, is not my problem, and it's certainly not my fault.
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